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AppTrans · **Joined:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:52 pm **Posts:** 4094

Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:07 pm

And now pitchfork too. This has spiraled a bit. On twitter a record store announced they were pulling Ariel's albums from the shelves. They're just taking part in the machine--I tried to call them out for consistency. It sure is easy to pull the LPs by someone who doesn't move a lot of units. Will Zeppelin and Rolling Stones albums get pulled? Rock has had many abusers. To forgive them for being apart of a different time period or something is as good as Weinstein excusing himself for being a "dinosaur who grew up in the 60s."

I understand why people are upset, and they should be. But it doesn't mean this can't be an ongoing discussion.

When I first read about this incident, I got upset because I thought "how could my idol do this?"
hyperbole gets the best of everyone. I won't abandon Ariel

jacquesguga · PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:07 pm

eh, i've accepted the fact he's a messed up dude already. it doesn't change how i see his music at all.
of course i think mistreating women sucks, but the girl herself said she's fine and doesn't want to be victimised. and honestly i'm tired of witch hunts, as possiblegrenade said it mainstream artists do waaaay more nasty shit and barely ever get called out for it. not just rock but other popular genres like rap too.

pitilesscensor · **Joined:** Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:23 pm **Posts:** 222

Exactly, I'm sure it wasn't as egregious as this:

https://youtu.be/0Lc1UMkTX68?t=10s

or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1L_5HIy2Yw

Selective outrage is starting to really annoy me.

Pipin · **Joined:** Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:43 am **Posts:** 47

sadsadsad wrote: *

Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:52 am

wowiezowie wrote: *

Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:01 pm

so I guess what i'm asking is does that effect your appreciation of his music and would you stop buying his albums/seeing him live?

Absolutely. Who wants these I feel dirty owning them.
[ img ]

i really really want these

AppTrans · **Joined:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:52 pm **Posts:** 4094

pitilesscensor wrote: *

Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:07 pm

Selective outrage is started to really annoy me.

right on the money

BishopWheel · **Joined:** Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:19 pm **Posts:** 2

what’s actually going on here? Is it literally just the stage theatrics that’s got everyone upset?! Leave the poor guy alone. & Don’t shame consenting females -

Riddle me timbers

I’ve melted like the icing on Harold Bishops birthday cake

Linoleum floor, linoleum floor
I declare a twitter war-

The eNeMy & PissSpoon don’t know shit about Marty Bobbypins so everyone can just chill their boots

Stick that in ur vapes & smoke it

I’ve got u Barbara

I’m the only elf in the sea that knows pianos fly

Love to the sass king

U can roast me anytime

Life is NOT a malfunction

Hope Ur okay

We must be vigilant and strong to win this war

Tiger Bride X

BishopWheel · **Joined:** Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:19 pm **Posts:** 2

AppTrans · **Joined:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:52 pm **Posts:** 4094

BishopWheel wrote: *

Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:21 pm

what’s actually going on here? Is it literally just the stage theatrics that’s got everyone upset?! Leave the poor guy alone. & Don’t shame consenting females -

Riddle me timbers

I’ve melted like the icing on Harold Bishops birthday cake

Linoleum floor, linoleum floor
I declare a twitter war-

The eNeMy & PissSpoon don’t know shit about Marty Bobbypins so everyone can just chill their boots

Stick that in ur vapes & smoke it

I’ve got u Barbara

I’m the only elf in the sea that knows pianos fly

Love to the sass king

U can roast me anytime

Life is NOT a malfunction

Hope Ur okay

We must be vigilant and strong to win this war

Tiger Bride X

riddle me timbers...good stuff

Pipin · **Joined:** Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:43 am **Posts:** 47

BishopWheel wrote: *

Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:21 pm

what’s actually going on here? Is it literally just the stage theatrics that’s got everyone upset?! Leave the poor guy alone. & Don’t shame consenting females -

Riddle me timbers

I’ve melted like the icing on Harold Bishops birthday cake

Linoleum floor, linoleum floor
I declare a twitter war-

The eNeMy & PissSpoon don’t know shit about Marty Bobbypins so everyone can just chill their boots

Stick that in ur vapes & smoke it

I’ve got u Barbara

I’m the only elf in the sea that knows pianos fly

Love to the sass king

U can roast me anytime

Life is NOT a malfunction

Hope Ur okay

We must be vigilant and strong to win this war

Tiger Bride X

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RareGoat · PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:39 pm

Captain Beefheart has risen from the grave.

wmbogart · **Joined:** Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:16 am **Posts:** 21

Pipin wrote: *

Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:24 pm

sadsadsad wrote: *

Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:52 am

wowiezowie wrote: *

Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:01 pm

so I guess what i'm asking is does that effect your appreciation of his music and would you stop buying his albums/seeing him live?

Absolutely. Who wants these I feel dirty owning them.
[ img ]

i really really want these

FYI - I'm selling these too, along with some rare stuff (signed Worn Copy LP, Loverboy CD & LP, FF LP, Pom Pom cassette & Japanese CD import) on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/wmbogart/m.htm ... pg=&_from=

Just listed those two for now, but I'll get around to the others. Donating the money from all of them.

I get where you all are coming from. I was at the SF shows too, and I've heard from other women since then about various other terrible shit he's done over the years that goes well beyond the interview trolling we're all used to. It's not just an outrage culture thing, I'm as big a fan of the music as anyone here. But there's a reason he's so concerned over a hit piece delving into his personal life.

mrnashville · **Joined:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:01 pm **Posts:** 108

What other terrible shit has he done over the years? I'm just curious, because I believe everything I've heard people get upset over has been taken out of context. The whole "maced by a feminist" thing was totally ridiculous for people to get mad about in my opinion. This isn't some fraternity douchebag who is saying these things, it's Ariel, who to me honestly seems like a sweet (misunderstood) guy.

What's the problem here? Charles is saying she was totally cool with it and that they were just playing around. I believe her.

kate · PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:48 pm

Hi Mausers! I've been busy, but I have some time now so,

I'm going to be making #ilovearielpink buttons.

XO

AppTrans · **Joined:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:52 pm **Posts:** 4094

I still have my favorite pins, including the Frog pin
Miss you, Kate!!! Never forget 2012 and our photo w/ Ariel
hahahaa

RareGoat · PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:22 pm

I still proudly wear my Kate pins to shows.

Maus Space

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