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I've continually had a liking for the mystical, but it wasn't until I matured a little iota that I discovered John Maus!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:30 am 
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i feel like i've heard john maus mention this a few times in interviews, and i've never really understood why art would be obsolete in utopia. is anyone familiar with the theory behind that idea/philosophers who talk about that?

i've never been able to get away from the idea that art, even if it's punk rock or subversive or ugly or meant to be bad; there's always some aspect of it that is beautiful/ giving voice to the 'beautiful' (in the art that i like). and, i can't imagine a perfect time where i wouldn't want to hear some of the beautiful melodies or series' of chords from maus or ariel

thoughts? :truluv:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:05 am 
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I guess I kind of understand this from the point of view that if you were living in a perfect utopia, rendering or articulating beauty would be redundant simply because it would already permeate everything as a way of life. At the moment it is a bit of a tantalizingly abstract ideal that no one can quite achieve.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:08 am 
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hm. yea that would make sense i guess. but what about music, though?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:39 pm 
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art was functional in the beginning, a way to honor and a way to measure
art came before language
it will never die as long as we're alive
as for utopia, that is impossible (except for annihilation)
for 7 billion people to coexist and to mutually love everything everyone is doing
art is a broad language and is part of our makeup.
We create.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:47 pm 
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As others have said, "perfect world" in this sense is just a theoretical construct - and a world which doesn't sound that interesting to live in anyway. Knowing Maus's philosophy training, it seems likely he's thinking in theoretical terms. If the world were perfect, no one would ever want or need anything, there would be no challenges, no achievements, no nothing except for flotation through a vanilla blah world. What would art be a reflection of? Why look at/listen to/create it at all when the status quo is always the optimal state of affairs?

Scaling back the scenario a bit, consider a more realistic looking "perfect world" where almost everyone gets along, almost no one goes hungry, and [insert useless celebrity maggot here] has to get a real job. In that world, I think art might actually thrive. It might actually depict an "imperfect world" of the imagination, that will entertain people because it provides a contrast to the existing world.


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